“wrongheaded?” oh dangit (with old man fist in the air) git off my lawn you kids! Where is the email the state sent to us last fall. Powhatan Today please publish the mysterious letter that our administration missed. Seems the mob mentality could have been avoided if “SOMEONE” was doing their job(s)in the first place.

Although I’m a military marksman myself, I really don’t see the need for a shooting range in Powhatan. The Virginia State Police already get awesome combat arms training from a federal government contractor in Fredericksburg right now. I know, because I used to often work with them teaching martial arts, etc…

What’s going to happen is the range will open, it will be open for a few months and it will piss plenty of people off. Then some burglar will get in there and steal a bunch of weapons at night, then he will go shoot some people in Powhatan “just for fun”, then we’ll have a real problem on our hands in addition to the range…

Guns are only meant to do one thing…There are plenty of firing ranges in Amelia, Richmond and Chesterfield. Why do we need another one here ? To me the firing range is in legal terms “An attractive nuisance”.

Joseph

To Dr. of What
Since Dr. Minguelinto Loveless did not answer your question, “Dr. Of What?” I thought I would toss in my two cent answer.

Dr. Miguelito Quixote Loveless is a fictional character, a villain on the 1960s television series The Wild Wild West.

To Dr. of What?:

No, I did not attend the meeting.  I stand by my statement that it is interesting that the writer chose not to mention any local Powhatan officials and that Ware and Watkins are the keys here.  If Mr. Tucker gave such a dynamic presentation why didn’t the writer even mention his name?

I would rather have a shooting range v.s another subdivision anyday!

Go ahead and pile on watching (PTA Applicant), I know you relish the rare opportunity.

I also know that you love the opportunity to attack my credibility as you have done over and over (because Libs can’t win on ideas, so they have to attack the messenger), yet you have none here by your own standards.

You’ve established yourself as someone who does nothing but personal attacks and incoherent rants. Calling people “boy” and bastardizing their names. Even a broken watch is right twice a day, so enjoy the moment.

As far as your other points about the peanut gallery, I suggest you look in the mirror and read 6 months worth of your own dribble and ask yourself…what have you actually contributed to the conversation ?

With the wealth of information out there, you do not need to attend public dog and pony shows all the time to remain informed. For example, when you spouted off in the Walmart post, it took me less than 10 minutes to provide the information about the cost of roads after I finished giving you your usual factual beatdown.

so where is bub moore’s freedom of info suggestion request results?  maybe he should expand his request to goochland’s gubamint since they “claim” to not have been informed, too.  whoa, the state representative claim they had no idea, also.

ole bub, how about you get “the email” and provide your analysis!

talk about knee-jerk, emotional reactions with no facts….

are we to believe this is the only single time that the peanut gallery has barraged the bulletin board without any facts at all, since, we now know, they had no facts whatsoever because no one had any facts but the fbi and vsp and even they don’t know things because they never bothered to determine them.

at least mr. griffith had “the stones” to admit he misfired, though, like he said about the firing range, misfires should never occur if you engage the brain fully before the mouth/keyboard.

still it is worthwhile to see him grasp the concept that his surety of the the incompetence of the government was not just situationally incorrect.  because he clearly linked their incompetence here to their fundamental flaws, it would stand to reason that the government as a whole and in particular the local folks in question are not fundamentally flawed.  or perhaps he’ll use the “broken clocks are right twice a day” adage.  the only problem is even really good clocks are only mostly right and you have to keep comparing them to all the other clocks.  if you only look and listen to a few you never really know what time it is.

odd though how griffin doesn’t appear to have actually intended to attend or in fact attended the meeting last night and his presence at other meetings appears to be minimal.  how can anyone get the facts about any of the goings on when you don’t even see it with your own eyes.  i mean, how many times have even highly reliable associates not been as reliable as first-hand interpretations?

and facts? forget about facts in most cases.  at the federal level there is almost no way to determine any facts, state pretty much the same and locally there is a good bit but you have to show up.  and you have to talk to several people before the full story emerges.  it is almost always less rather than more than meets the eye.

the only thing left before hell freezes over is the PTA group to acknowledge their erroneous press release which cuts deeply to the very core of their existence.  how could they do what they say they do on a regular basis if they didn’t know that dern newspaper article was totally incorrect.  don’t they truly understand “the numbers” sufficient to know when a hack journalist doesn’t understand “the numbers”?  and whomever the cat was that penned it was a former high muckety-muck.  presumably before the whole lot of the local officials (‘cept bub and debbie jones) got the county on the wrong track.

in that supposedly unbroken chain of poor leadership for decades, when was the county you decided to move to and cherise created?  the day before you arrived? and then day after you arrived it turned to “the left” or poorly lead?

possibly things are not as bad as those seeking attention would try to have the public believe.  otherwise they get no attention. 

for the media that is called ratings.  at least they are making money at it.

the bloggers and activists du jour just do it to fill a personal need.

Clearly now there is more to this than a simple property rights issue and “hyped” safety concerns. That it has some serious flaws in the planning.

I stand corrected from previous posts. I Ass/um/ed that the VSP of all people would consider safety and other important parameters, especially considering how long it has been in the planning stage. That it was just a matter of some folks not wanting it.

I’m used to seeing incompetence at local, state and federal levels…....Never thought I would when it comes to the very people who have the guns, regulate the guns, and in some cases have to use the guns, planning a range for firearms.

Now if you’ll excuse, I have to find some salt to go with my crow.

Guess you weren’t at the meeting?  Carson Tucker led the local residents in presenting the case against the range.  Many of the local residents, former law enforcement folks and members of the armed services, were better informed than the state police’s reps. The state police reps didn’t even have answers to the residents questions on some of the most important topics.  I’d hope Ware and Watkins would have more influence on the state level since that’s why we send them there.  Ware will stand up for us, not so sure about Watkins though.

Interesting that there is no mention of local Powhatan officials.  Actually, it is very shrewd of the opponents of the firing range to rely on Delegate Ware and Senator Watkins.  They have more influence at the State level and are not vulnerable to some of the criticisms that local officials are.